Melissa Lapin (00:10.03)
Welcome back to another episode of After the Well. My name is Melissa and I am glad you joined me today. On this episode I have Justin Farrenbrook, yet another friend that I met in SOK a couple years ago. My listeners already know that 99 out of 100 of my interviews are SOK people. So, SOK is awesome. If you know, you know.
But Justin is... Man, I don't know, just watching him. I troll a lot of people on Facebook and so trolling you on Facebook, I love your heart just to love on people and to love on quote, the unlovable. You love on people that won't necessarily go inside a church and, um...
Yeah, so introduce yourself a little bit, your ministry, what you do, and then we'll just jump in from there.
Justin Fahrenbruch (01:11.282)
Yeah. All right. Well, thank you, first of all, for having me on the podcast. And, you know, yeah, I mean, like, like Melissa said, you know, I'm, my name is Justin Ferenberg from Saginaw, Michigan. So I'm from, you know, if you don't know Saginaw, it's a few, if you search and Google top 10 worst cities to live in the United States, Saginaw would be in that list. We, yeah, we better.
Melissa Lapin (01:31.794)
Wow, I didn't know that.
Justin Fahrenbruch (01:34.23)
We've been in that list for quite some years for drugs and crime per capita. I mean, there's bigger cities like New York, but I mean, as far as like how little our city is compared to the crime, um, we are like top 10 worst cities to live in, you know, but like we say, you know, I mean, God didn't call me out of the darkness to leave the darkness. I'm the light and I'm supposed to show up in the darkness. So that's where I'm at. You know, and, um, you know, my story is a little conventional and we'll, we'll get into that, but you know, I just wanted to say thank you. I'm, uh, quote unquote evangelist, uh,
Melissa Lapin (01:37.029)
Hmm.
Melissa Lapin (01:52.97)
Come on.
Justin Fahrenbruch (02:04.144)
the church, you know, and I never knew I was an evangelist. I just knew that Jesus had changed my life and I needed to share with somebody what Jesus did in my life. And so yeah, that's what I started to do. And you know, I mean, I've been completely transformed. You know, I love Jesus with all my heart and I do my best to love people the best I can, like Melissa said, you know, and try to see the gold within people. You know, I think it's really easy to find the dirt in people, but it really takes a special, you know, person of God to really see the gold within somebody and pull that out. So, yeah.
Melissa Lapin (02:26.505)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (02:32.69)
Yeah, it takes effort. It takes effort, not just to write somebody off because you're looking at the outside, which the outside is usually just a symptom of what's going on in our hearts anyway, you know? It's not the real thing. We live Instagram lives, usually, whether we mean to or not, you know? So, the world's not always a safe place to be authentic. So, um...
Justin Fahrenbruch (02:58.446)
Right.
Melissa Lapin (03:00.994)
So, side note real quick, I've become really good friends with Katie Re. It's small world, man. Yeah, I met her through Melissa McCreary's Kingdom Leadership Matrix through Angel Goble. And yeah, she's like, you know, I know Justin from years ago. So.
Justin Fahrenbruch (03:06.894)
That's wild.
Justin Fahrenbruch (03:23.57)
Yeah, she knows me in my BC days. I say my before Christ days. Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (03:29.05)
Yeah, that's what she calls them too, the BC days. Ha ha ha. Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (03:32.902)
And I was a, my testimony is real and we'll get into that, but you know, I was a really bad dude and you know, it's kind of cool how, you know, social media and how, you know, even with that's okay, like I started to share dub stuff and just started to share like, Hey, if you guys want to get involved with kingdom stuff, there's where it's at. And I think she kind of somehow was following me, seeing that post got connected. And then you guys got connected and you know, just Holy Spirit just started to, started to connect everybody. And so yeah, super cool. I love that.
Melissa Lapin (03:50.886)
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Lapin (03:58.618)
Yeah, and now we have matching tattoos. She and I did. We went and got bro tats two weekends ago. We were at the same, we were at a...
Justin Fahrenbruch (04:01.61)
Seen that too, man. That is so cool.
Justin Fahrenbruch (04:09.326)
So awesome.
Melissa Lapin (04:13.61)
a summit in Texas with Angel, a leadership summit, and shared a hotel. I slept with her. We slept in the same bed, complete strangers, and we showed up and we did all the things. And two days later, we got matching tattoos and we're family now because that's the way kingdom works, right? So, you shared a little bit before we got on that you obviously did not grow up.
Justin Fahrenbruch (04:31.186)
Amen. That's right.
Melissa Lapin (04:42.706)
kingdom or even church.
Justin Fahrenbruch (04:45.891)
Man, well, you know, actually, Melissa, I grew up churched. I grew up, and yeah, so I grew up my grandmother. So you want me to share a little bit of my story real quick?
Melissa Lapin (04:48.862)
Did you? Okay.
Melissa Lapin (04:55.014)
Yeah, let's just jump in there because that's what it's about. The after the well is based on
just how God meets us in our every day, you know? So, whatever our journey is from the beginning, there has to be, you know, some people will call it our aha moment, but I like to call it a well moment because aha moments are just like, oh, like I've had a revelation. But to me, the well moment is Jesus was already there and I showed up. He told me some things about myself and then I went
Melissa Lapin (05:31.4)
and let's be evangelism, you know? Let's be evangelist, which is what you did.
Justin Fahrenbruch (05:36.558)
Come on.
that Melissa, I love that you know and aha moments and well moments and man that's so good, that is so good you know and so you know I so I grew up and I was born and raised in church you know my mom and dad had me at a very young age and gave me up for adoption and my grandparents took me in and they were born and raised in a Lutheran denomination and so you know I got into church I was at church every Sunday every Thursday every Wednesday but you know as we know that's not
Melissa Lapin (05:42.226)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (06:05.86)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (06:07.888)
I died, you know, I'm sure that I was, but I just wasn't living the full life. And the gospel to me was one day when you die, you get to go to heaven, but you got to live through hell until you get there. And... Amen.
Melissa Lapin (06:16.602)
Right, yeah, you got all the rules to follow and especially Lutheran. Lutheran's pretty intense because it's like a bunch of Germans and we all know Germans are intense people. Yeah, I've had quite a few Lutheran friends, you know, so all the do's and don'ts and a lot of... not a lot of feeding identity in the Lutheran. There's not a lot of that.
Justin Fahrenbruch (06:46.998)
You know, not at all. And you know, my name is Farron Brook. So you can, that's German, you know. And so if you want, if I was German, it'd be Farron Brook, you know, if I was. But you know, so I was born and raised in that, you know, I went through confirmation, but ultimately I didn't really have a relationship with Christ. I knew about Jesus, but I didn't know Jesus. I came to church, but I never came to Christ. And you know, that's what religion does. It kind of locks you up and doesn't allow you to go forward in who you are in Christ, your identity. It had no idea about the kingdom, you know. So I got in drug addiction.
Melissa Lapin (06:50.972)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (06:54.217)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (07:16.632)
years. I went through 14 years of getting, you know, I went from marijuana to alcohol, to cocaine, to painkillers. And then I started taking opiates and man, them opiates, I went from one to two to three and I got up to eating 10 of them every single day. And, uh, yeah, man, you know, so if you're watching this right now and, you know, you're struggling with addiction, the end of the story is, uh, you know, I actually cried out to God in the middle of a parking lot, not in church, you know, and I, cause I seen so much garbage and I, hopefully I can be real on this podcast. Hopefully we're okay.
Melissa Lapin (07:28.262)
Wow.
Melissa Lapin (07:44.71)
Yup.
Justin Fahrenbruch (07:46.652)
so much garbage and so much stuff in the church that just didn't attract me. I'm like, this is not attractive. People that were self-righteous looking down on everybody else, you know, and I'm like, I just, I didn't want nothing to do with it. I actually turned my back on church and went my own way and said, I want nothing to do with this religious garbage. And, you know, so, but I, you know, I got stuck in drug addiction, did my own thing, you know, ended up having a couple kids, ended up getting married. And, you know, I, I'm shortening up my testimony a lot, but, you know,
Melissa Lapin (07:53.136)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (08:15.53)
We got time, bro. We've got as long as we want, so you can talk about all you want.
Justin Fahrenbruch (08:16.808)
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, man, I just remember, I'll just share this, I just remember one day in the middle of my drug addiction, because I believe there's gonna be viewers on here that struggle with addiction. And if you're a Christian, you can still struggle with addiction and still love Jesus. And so if you're watching this, I wanted to give you some hope to let you know that doesn't mean you're any less, it doesn't mean that God doesn't love you, it doesn't mean that you're not saveable, it doesn't mean that you're dirty, it just means that you need help. And good news, Jesus wants to give you help, Jesus wants to set you free.
Melissa Lapin (08:34.275)
Absolutely.
Justin Fahrenbruch (08:51.504)
daughter one day and I remember looking at her and since I grew up without a mom and dad I kind of grew up in a broken home with my grandparents you know I just remember looking at my daughter when she was four years old and I just remember having this thought come to me and the thought was I didn't want her to find a man like me one day you know
Melissa Lapin (09:07.07)
Hmm.
Justin Fahrenbruch (09:07.79)
And it just broke. It just, it shook me to my core. I believe it was God. I don't know. I don't know. I just had this thought and I'm like, I just don't want my daughter to start dating a young man like me. I mean, I was cheating. I was lying. I was stealing. I'm out here on the streets in Saginaw. I mean, I'm, I'm robbing people. I mean, I'm, I'm getting put at gunpoint, getting robbed. I'm getting robbed. I mean, there's things that happened to me that should have never happened. And I just remember looking at my daughter, you know, because of the addiction, because I was struggling with addiction, because, you know, addiction took over. And I mean, addiction is, you know, it's a demon.
Melissa Lapin (09:35.294)
Mm-hmm.
Justin Fahrenbruch (09:37.604)
it is man. I struggled with it for a long time and I just looked at my daughter and this thought came to me. After I started to really think about it, I'm like, man, I want to get out of this drug addiction. I want to be free from it. I started to do things on my own and I couldn't really get free. I would quit for a little bit but then I'd ultimately go back. I would quit and then I would go back. I would quit and I would go back. I could never really get free. I remember this crazy moment in a bell tire
Melissa Lapin (09:38.282)
Mm-hmm.
Justin Fahrenbruch (10:07.584)
My car one week my car broke down my other car broke down. You know my dryer broke down My wife's getting ready to leave me. I got no money. I mean you know the addiction was taken over and You know I just remember crying out I got on my knees in the middle of a parking lot And I just cried out and I said God if you really are real and you can save me from this mess that I'm in God then I'll live for you for the rest of my life, and I cried out no one else was watching There was no one else watching me. There was no one in the parking lot. There was no church pews There was no worship team there was none of that stuff
God. And in that moment, man, God seen me and he heard my heart and just snapped that drug addiction off my life. I got up out of that parking lot and I had an encounter. I had a true encounter with Jesus. I mean, it was something that was just, I can't really explain. All I know is that he entered into my heart in a way that I've never experienced before. And I just was, I was clean. I'm like, I don't want to do drugs anymore. And you know that, and the fight didn't stop there. I mean, the thoughts kept coming. They kept fighting me in my mind, but I just knew like there was something.
Melissa Lapin (10:44.579)
Hmm.
Melissa Lapin (11:00.03)
Hmm.
Justin Fahrenbruch (11:07.444)
behind me, there was God behind me, He was in me and that He was giving me that strength to say no and just keep going forward. And so, you know, after I went through the withdrawals, I mean, because that's the thing with addiction, you know, I believe spiritually I was saved at that moment. I believe that I was born again, you know, filled with the Spirit, but my body still had to go through pushing the drugs out of my system, detoxing. And you know, and so I had to detox for a month, you know, but I mean, even in this month.
Melissa Lapin (11:20.49)
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Lapin (11:26.29)
Just detoxing, yeah. Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (11:32.574)
Wow.
Justin Fahrenbruch (11:34.174)
I had a, because I mean 14 years is worth the drugs. You know, I mean that's a long time to put drugs into your system. So I was about 16. Yep, 16 when I started and about 31. I think it was 30, 16, 31.
Melissa Lapin (11:39.25)
How old were you when you started?
Okay, wow.
Justin Fahrenbruch (11:50.626)
I tell people this, I say, I started when I was 16, I don't think I was an addict until I turned about 19. Cause you can do drugs once or twice and not be addicted to it. You can drink alcohol, you can go out and have a drink and not be addicted. So I wasn't addicted right away, but them bad habits eventually led me into addiction because I just constantly kept going back and wanted more and more.
Melissa Lapin (11:56.243)
Okay.
Right.
Melissa Lapin (12:09.054)
Yeah, well, I should say eventually it's not enough. So what was going on in your life when you were 19 that you think triggered you to I just went all counselor on you. Sorry. What, what, what do you think that what is it that you think you were looking for that drugs gave you
Justin Fahrenbruch (12:21.066)
Yeah, you're good. That's all right. Oh, you're good.
Justin Fahrenbruch (12:30.142)
You know, you know, Melissa, looking back, you know, I didn't really think about it at the time. You know, I don't think anybody, cause I'm young, you know, and I'm just, I'm worrying about one day at a time. And, you know, I ended up going to high school.
Melissa Lapin (12:38.681)
Yeah. Or just partying and wanting to fit in. You know? Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (12:41.402)
That's it. And that's exactly it. I just wanted to fit in. And I mean, even though I went to church, you know, in the Lutheran school, I knew to say no to drugs. You know, I seen the dare and you know, all that's all the, you know, I went through it all. But I mean, ultimately, you know, after a couple of months of me saying no, and my friends are all doing, you know, I'm the, I'm the one that's looking left out now and they're all out there having fun and they're laughing and I'm the one getting picked on. And you know, I'm the one that, you know, so I just felt like, you know, I really feel like there was a whole kind of in my heart too,
Melissa Lapin (12:50.875)
I'm sorry.
Justin Fahrenbruch (13:11.116)
You know, I had an animosity towards the other kids because I didn't have a mom and dad growing up. So I think that did have a lot to play with it. But I didn't, I wasn't taught my identity. It comes down to, I didn't know who I was. And so I was trying to be everybody else and I wanted to be liked and I wanted to fit in and I wanted the girls to like me. And so, you know, I'd say, hey, I'm going to go hang out with all these guys. And so, you know, that's what I did. You know, but, oh yeah.
Melissa Lapin (13:23.134)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (13:33.683)
So I guess 19, that's like when you get out, you got out of high school and just...
Justin Fahrenbruch (13:39.486)
Yeah, so I started smoking when I was 16, you know, 15 years old, I started smoking marijuana and then 16 or 17, I remember doing some cocaine. And then I remember doing just a little bit here and there. I wasn't addicted, but I'm just like, I'm going to try it. You know, so I was just, you know, and then I started drinking, you know, obviously started going to parties. And then I started to do pretty much everything. Um, but around 19 was when I started to do the painkillers, you know, and I started eating Vicodin's man, them Vicodin's man, them boy, them Vicodin's, them opiates, they are no joke. You know, you take one or two and you think it's all good, you know,
Melissa Lapin (13:49.907)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (14:01.182)
Hmm.
Justin Fahrenbruch (14:09.38)
after a while your body builds up a tolerance. And like you said, I did two and then two wasn't doing it anymore, so then I needed three and then three wasn't doing it, so then I needed four. And at the time, you know, drugs were so accessible here in Saginaw. I mean, I could go out and get them for a buck a piece, 50 cents or a dollar a piece here on the streets. And so I would buy them for a dollar and then I'd turn around and go sell them to the rich kids up in a different city, you know, for three, four dollars. And so I'm making, I'm making money now. Now I'm starting to make money. I also was working at that time. I had a job and it was at a restaurant.
Melissa Lapin (14:25.523)
Wow.
Justin Fahrenbruch (14:39.402)
If you never worked in a restaurant before, drugs are pretty easily accessible in the restaurant. So I'm buying them in Saginaw and I'm selling them. And I'll never forget, this is kind of a staple moment too, is you know this guy named Donald Trump, you heard of him before.
Melissa Lapin (14:55.922)
Yeah, once or twice.
Justin Fahrenbruch (14:57.774)
He declared a war on opiates in 2018, if anybody watching, if you guys remember, he declared a war on opiates and he declared that America was in an opioid crisis. And when he did that, my street price went from a dollar or two dollars a pill on the street to six dollars a pill overnight. And so at that point, I was eating eight Vicodins a day and my drug addiction went from $16 a day to about $40 a day, I mean, overnight. Just because he declared this war and all the doctors started to cut off
Melissa Lapin (15:15.239)
Wow.
Melissa Lapin (15:23.678)
Dang.
Justin Fahrenbruch (15:27.408)
all the scripts and so I wasn't able to get them on the street like I was before. And so this really became an issue for me because even though the price went up, my addiction, you know, I still had to keep taking the same amount, you know? And so, you know, that was another factor that kind of helped me into, you know, man, just really buckling down and saying, I can't do this anymore, you know? But I think it all ultimately, you know, to answer your questions, I kind of got on a little rabbit trail there.
Melissa Lapin (15:37.874)
didn't, right? Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (15:52.085)
You're good.
Justin Fahrenbruch (15:53.098)
But you know, to answer your question, I think it was a lack of identity, a lack of confidence in who God said I was and who I am. And then also just, you know, that pain of wanting a mom and dad in my life and not really having it and then filling that void with the drugs, you know, so I would smoke weed or do the pills and it would help for an hour or two. And then once that high wore off, I'd have to come back to it again. The high would wore off. I'd have to come back to it again. And so subconsciously that's what I was doing. I don't, at the time, I didn't even know that, you know,
Melissa Lapin (16:06.218)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (16:18.179)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (16:23.052)
I'm like, that's what was happening. But yeah, so that's how it all started
Melissa Lapin (16:25.962)
Yeah, I mean, nobody wakes up and plans to be an addict. So and then when you have community, high school is hard enough. Middle school and high school is hard enough. Freaking life is hard enough with the peer pressure. You got church peer pressure. You got to be part of the right church. And inside that church, you got to be part of the right clique. And, you know, it's just a game that we never stop playing until.
Justin Fahrenbruch (16:29.803)
Exactly. That's it.
Justin Fahrenbruch (16:40.489)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (16:52.546)
we get kingdom identity and we and we believe it you know um so i'm thinking as you're talking and sharing was there a time
that you knew?
Melissa Lapin (17:16.974)
about when did you discover that you were evangelist? Like a person, an influencer, you know what I'm saying? Because you are. And so like in high school, were you a leader? Was that part of your undefined identity? Did people follow you? And
Justin Fahrenbruch (17:24.043)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (17:32.754)
So this is kind of funny Melissa, because I was always an introvert. Like I never want, in high school I was always, I was always the, uh, you know, I was, I was 260 pounds at one point. I'm only five eight. So I mean, I was 260 pounds. You know, I had, I had a weight problem. You know, I was overweight a lot of my white life. And so I was very, just didn't want to talk to anybody. And for a long time, and you know, I didn't really start talking to people to become an evangelist until I started selling drugs, like selling drugs. I had to make all these connections.
Melissa Lapin (17:37.155)
Okay.
Justin Fahrenbruch (18:02.668)
had to sell things, you know, so I had to, I had to sell my coke. I had to sell my weed. I had to sell my pills and I had to be a fast talker and I had to be convinced. You know, I had to have that street smarts. And not only that, I mean, like I said, I mean, there's a situations where I got robbed at gunpoint, there's situations where I was robbing people, breaking into houses and just, you know, doing bad things, but I had to juggle a lot. And, you know, I really believe that God always had that calling on my life. I didn't even know it, but once I got rid of the drugs, once I got rid of all of
Melissa Lapin (18:04.22)
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Lapin (18:29.034)
Mm-hmm.
Justin Fahrenbruch (18:32.91)
I'm like that, you know, I believe them talents that God had placed in me to talk to people were always there, but I just wasn't using them for the right, you know, I was, I was using them for the darkness, not for the light.
Melissa Lapin (18:42.276)
Right.
Justin Fahrenbruch (18:43.154)
And so, you know, once I got free, I'm just, once I had that encounter with Jesus, I mean, wasn't nobody telling me that Jesus wasn't real. I mean, no, but I mean, all the Lutherans and all these church people that are like, yeah, we know about Jesus. I'm like, no, you don't know Jesus. You know, I'm like, you gotta know him. You know, I started to just share with them. And, you know, man, I tell you what, you know, I, man, I, and you know what the funny thing is, Melissa, is I always was churched, you know, I was churched my whole life. And, but when I had that encounter,
Melissa Lapin (18:57.758)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (19:13.048)
the parking lot. I said, God, I want to know the truth. I said, I'm tired of these people not talking. I mean, it was like within a week, I got led to a ministry and it wasn't SOK, it was another ministry, but they taught me about the kingdom. And so I learned about identity. The first thing he took me to was identity. You know, and I'm like, God, I want to know the truth. And so first I learned about kingdom identity. Then he taught me about authority and power. And later on I got connected with Miles Monroe and you know, about the revelation of the kingdom. Then I got connected. That's how I got connected
Melissa Lapin (19:25.95)
Hmm.
Melissa Lapin (19:30.643)
Wow.
Melissa Lapin (19:40.301)
Yup
Justin Fahrenbruch (19:43.188)
Dub started to bust out on the scene talking just like Miles and I'm like, man, this is white Miles right here. I used to joke with him. I'm like, bro, you are white Miles Monroe, man. But yeah, and then I just started to learn and just really started to grab a hold of it. And I didn't really know I was an evangelist until a couple years later.
Melissa Lapin (19:50.006)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (20:01.386)
and I just felt like God was telling me, you're called as an evangelist. I started to read the Bible, I'm like, well, if I'm an evangelist, what does that mean? And I just started to read, it said, well, the evangelist is for the equipping of the saints for the work of the ministry.
Melissa Lapin (20:16.19)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (20:16.242)
And so my whole and I to be honest with you, I had a lot of church hurt. I did not want nothing to do with church. I didn't want nothing to do with any denomination. I can, I went, me and my wife, Candace, like the whole story is kind of crazy, man. My wife was like, not on board at first. I mean, our whole story is kind of crazy, Melissa. We could do like five episodes, but you know.
But Candace had to see the change in me, you know, cause I always, I always proclaimed that I was a follower of Jesus, but I wasn't living it. And so for my wife going through a 14 year drug addiction and me being out till midnight, one o'clock in the morning and spending all of our money and just, you know, getting robbed and our, you know, putting our, taking my daughter and putting my daughter in situation. I'm taking my daughter to the trap house. I mean, I'm taking my daughter to the drug dealer's house. And because of that, I needed my drugs, right? And that's what addiction does. I'm like, I didn't care. I didn't care.
Melissa Lapin (20:37.502)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (20:43.623)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (20:58.819)
Wow.
Justin Fahrenbruch (21:05.188)
about what I put my family in, I just needed to get my drugs. And so, you know, once I got out of all that, it took her a little bit to really realize that I was for real with this. And, you know, like, this is a real thing. And so she got to see the transformation in me and, you know, it was tough for her. She was born and raised Pentecostal Charismatic. And so, you know, I'm Lutheran. So you got to think, you know, me coming in, you know, I'm like, man, I was taught that everything that they were doing in their church was of the devil. So I'm like super confused. I'm like, they're in here talking in tongues. And they told me.
Melissa Lapin (21:23.102)
Hehehehehe
Justin Fahrenbruch (21:35.188)
the tongues were of the devil and all this crazy stuff. And, you know, so I had to really, I went through a big transition for a couple of years of, you know, after I truly got, you know, when I had that encounter, you know, my wife and I really had to, you know, go through a process of, you know, really getting on the same page, you know, spiritually.
Melissa Lapin (21:38.254)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (21:53.282)
Yeah, well just detoxing your previous life, like everything, get rid of all the theology, all the relationship skills or lack thereof. And it's it because when we have an encounter like that with the Lord, when Jesus meets us face to face one on one and we have a moment in our heart that
Justin Fahrenbruch (21:59.382)
Yes.
Melissa Lapin (22:18.286)
No one can talk us out of, you know, like you were talking about, it was like, you cannot tell me that this did not happen. You know? Um. It.
Justin Fahrenbruch (22:20.334)
That's right.
Melissa Lapin (22:29.326)
It changes every aspect of our life. Like every aspect, our relationships, you know, are like not just as personal, but like everything around us we touch. We, we so many times, we just try to compartmentalize life. And scripture over and over says that God's in all things. You know, he's in all things, which means he's in all areas. He's in all relationships. He's in your job and your work. And you can't be this fractured.
Justin Fahrenbruch (22:33.288)
Yes.
Melissa Lapin (22:59.28)
person trying to be all these different things and wear all of these different hats because that's not how it works you know and to be able to I need to have her on the
Justin Fahrenbruch (23:17.798)
Yeah, I know. Well, my wife and I are like complete opposites. And so, you know, I'm out, you'll see me out there preaching out, you know, social media.
Melissa Lapin (23:27.614)
I don't know that I've seen a picture of her even on Facebook. Like, I see the bus and I see you preaching, but I don't know that I've seen her.
Justin Fahrenbruch (23:33.233)
Yeah.
Yeah, a lot of people joke about me that says, is your wife real? I'm like, yeah, she's real. She's real. She's just, she's totally behind the scenes and she's very supportive. I mean, and you know, and God, you know, I love the way, you know, like we complete each other. And so if we were both like that, it'd probably be difficult, but she's behind the scenes. She's my number one supporter. She's my number one fan. She's my number one. She's my support. I mean, she prays for me. We do a lot of ministry together too. You know, our family, we try to do family ministry. It's a lot for them. I'm built different than most people.
Melissa Lapin (23:40.062)
Ha ha ha!
Melissa Lapin (23:46.031)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (24:06.368)
I mean, we travel, I think it was 15,000 miles we've done this year so far. So I mean, we travel all over the state. You know, I mean, we're going to different churches. I preach in every denomination, because I tell people, the kingdom is cross denominational. I'm like, they're like, how are you doing what you're doing? I'm like, I'm seeking first the kingdom. I understand kingdom principles. And when you understand kingdom principles, you can operate in every sphere. They're like, why are you going into the Renaissance festivals? And why are you going to the witchcraft and all this stuff? I'm like, because that's where Jesus went.
Melissa Lapin (24:06.601)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (24:11.142)
Nice. Okay. Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (24:25.866)
Come on.
Melissa Lapin (24:29.757)
Yup.
Justin Fahrenbruch (24:36.374)
What do you mean? I'm not scared of that. And that's, you know, man, anyway, that could, we could talk a whole episode on that too.
Melissa Lapin (24:36.554)
Come on! Come on, what are we afraid of? What are we afraid of? Yeah.
bro, yes we could, especially just coming off Halloween and some of the conversations that I've had and you know and making alternatives and I'm like no that's not anyway, shoot that rabbit, shoot it. So in their journey, what were, if you can verbalize it,
Justin Fahrenbruch (24:57.815)
sad man. Anyway, yeah.
Melissa Lapin (25:12.934)
you know, starting with the time, you know, you said that you were with your daughter and you're like, man, I do not want her to grow up and be with a guy like me. Okay. So that's an identity check moment right there. And is that I guess that was the beginning. Okay. So then you had your encounter in the parking lot. So after that, what were some of the things that you began to hear?
Jesus say to you like
Not scripture, I'm not throwing shade on scripture, scripture is important. But because when I ask some people they're just like, well this scripture and that scripture, I'm like, oh, but what did Jesus tell you in your heart? You know? So what were some of those things, maybe some prophetic words that really became your well moments that you have made your foundation or that in times you've had to go back and go, oh yeah, let me remind myself this is what I'm talking about.
Justin Fahrenbruch (25:56.958)
Uh, yeah, yeah.
Melissa Lapin (26:17.04)
you said.
Justin Fahrenbruch (26:18.638)
That's a really key. I really appreciate that, Melissa. And I mean, I'm big on scripture too. Like I know I kept going to the Bible, but you know, I will say this and I had to be very careful. And so when I first, like when I was coming off those drugs, I mean, that whole month was completely supernatural. I mean, I had, it wasn't just one encounter. I mean, I had encounter after encounter, after encounter. I mean, I believe that was when I was, you know, whatever you want to call baptism in the Holy spirit, whatever you want to call that. I don't, you know, whatever that was,
Melissa Lapin (26:34.334)
Hmm.
Melissa Lapin (26:48.732)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (26:48.772)
encounter in the parking lot which led to me having out-of-body experiences that I can't even share with most people and I know I can share this on your podcast but you know I started to have these visions where I was laying in bed and my wife thought I was crazy like so by the way just so you know I mean she was always a Christian but this stuff was like really it was a lot you know and God started to show me things my first vision that I had was me looking in the mirror and looking back was Jesus and at the time that was like complete heresy
Melissa Lapin (26:57.459)
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Lapin (27:16.478)
Hmm. Oh, it still is today. Yeah. Wow. I'm sorry.
Justin Fahrenbruch (27:18.512)
I mean, you can't say.
It's crazy, you know, and I'm like, and I woke up from this, this vision and it was so vivid. And I'm like, I mean, I was there. I mean, it was, I mean, it was totally. And I said, Candice, I had this vision. I said, looking in the mirror, looking back was Jesus. She says, you can't say that that's heresy. I'm like, I'm telling you, that's what God showed me. And that was like my first encounter where God was showing me identity. Like, you are not yourself anymore. Your identity now is in me. And he was showing me that spiritually you and I are one. I mean, union with the whole, that's a big,
Melissa Lapin (27:35.166)
Ha ha ha.
Melissa Lapin (27:48.234)
Mm-hmm. Yes.
Justin Fahrenbruch (27:51.172)
And I started so and then I started to share people the revelation that was a mistake I started to share with the church people that I was with and they started to just blast me and this is another reason why I got so far away from the church because I'm like I'm trying to share I'm going to the pastors and leaders the only people that I know to share the stuff that God's showing me and they're like You're crazy, and I'm like I'm crazy. What do you want me to do? This is what God's showing me and so you know and I had one other encounter And it was and this is kind of what still keeps me going today, and I I'm a big believer in vision
Melissa Lapin (27:59.891)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (28:08.286)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (28:13.137)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (28:20.432)
I'm a big believer in purpose and that's what God started to speak to me about. What is your purpose? What did I put you here on the earth for? I started to search for that. I'm like, okay, what is my purpose? I'm not a drug addict anymore. I'm a child of God now. You're showing me that I'm one with you. Yeah, go ahead.
Melissa Lapin (28:37.946)
Okay, so that is key right there that I want to touch on for the listeners too. You were in search of your purpose. Out of identity, not of a religious conviction that you have to do something for God. And that right there, my friends, is the gold nugget.
Justin Fahrenbruch (28:47.275)
Yes.
Melissa Lapin (29:01.938)
beyond anything else he might say. Because it's not about doing it's about being. I had Joaquin was on here so I haven't posted that podcast yet but he's he made this statement. He goes, um, oh crap I wrote it down because now I can't remember it. But it was a good oh yeah he said don't find a place to belong. Find a place to be.
Justin Fahrenbruch (29:31.426)
Good. Yep.
Melissa Lapin (29:32.166)
You know, and so often when we get a little taste of kingdom, you know, have a moment with God or whatever.
we get zealous, which is great because he can use that. But often we try to plug into a church and go, where can I serve? I love Jesus, I just want to serve. When he's like, damn it, you missed the whole point of what I just brought you out of, you know? It's like, okay, let's back up a minute. You don't have to, and that was one of my things because my mountain, my place of purpose is
church people, but I am not called to be in church. We just walked away from a church after being there for almost four years. And because, well, there was a lot of because, but in it, understanding that my purpose is to bring identity to church people. And I don't have to confine myself to the church building.
or a particular congregation like you, you're not tied to one particular denomination or church or whatever, because the kingdom is the kingdom. And people who listen to this podcast, there are people in Africa that listen, people in England that listen. I'm worldwide, I'm international.
Justin Fahrenbruch (31:02.166)
Hey, Scott, come on.
Melissa Lapin (31:03.826)
because I do not tie myself or affiliate myself with a particular denomination or anything like that. And we do ourself a disservice when we put aside what God has told us and pick up religion and like service and acts, if that makes sense. So
Justin Fahrenbruch (31:29.798)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (31:33.578)
That was really good. I really like the way that you put that. You were looking for your purpose. But understanding your identity first gives you a completely different lens to go on that search with.
Justin Fahrenbruch (31:49.57)
Man, and that was the first, like I said, the first step is God showed me that vision and that was another encounter. I believe that was an encounter with Jesus, man. That burned in my heart where it didn't matter what other people told me. It didn't matter if my pastors and my leaders were like, no, that's not true. I had an encounter with Jesus, man. This is God himself talking to me. I mean, who am I gonna listen to? You guys or God? I mean, I know it was God.
Melissa Lapin (31:56.574)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (32:00.49)
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Lapin (32:11.36)
Come on.
Justin Fahrenbruch (32:12.634)
And you know, and so that, you know, to be honest, I got away. And like you said, I got away from church. I said, I'm not doing none of this. And I had more visions. You know, I had a vision of God showing me that I was going to be preaching to a lot of people. I mean, I had this vision where I was up preaching the true gospel to end my testimony to all these people. And you know what, Melissa, I started to share my vision with people. And I found out real quick, don't shit. Everything that God shows me was not for everybody else.
Melissa Lapin (32:37.943)
Haha, yup. Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (32:39.382)
and I learned real quick because they were just, I mean, they just tried to hammer me and they tried to say, that's not God, that's not God. And again, I had to see...
who am I going to listen to? And you know, and those same people now, it's been five years since I had my encounter, my vision. And those people that were laughing at me telling me that ain't God, they ain't laughing no more. They're like, wow, Justin's doing it. He's out there doing it. And I'm like, yeah, because this is what God showed me. I mean, and I'm going to keep going for what God showed me. And until I get there, I got work to do. And it's not about me having to work. That's another thing I fall into that category. And listen, people, if you don't know my heart and you don't know me personally, then you don't know, I'm not doing what I do to forget.
Melissa Lapin (32:59.27)
Yeah, come on. Come on.
Justin Fahrenbruch (33:17.6)
any credit. I'm just doing this because I love people and I want to see people succeed and I just want to see God show up and encounter them in their life so they can get out of the mess of whatever it is that they put themselves in so they can find and experience the kingdom and a relationship with Jesus. That's why I do what I do. I do a lot of ministry, I do a lot of outreach, I travel all over. But yeah, anyway, so go ahead.
Melissa Lapin (33:20.723)
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Lapin (33:33.982)
Right.
Melissa Lapin (33:42.662)
Yeah, no, I'm just listening. I just, I love it. I love, you know, cause I see the pictures of all the baptisms that you do and just your passion because it's about Jesus. Like I was saying beforehand, like this Christology course, John Crowder's Christology, it is about Christ. It's everything about Christ and just
Justin Fahrenbruch (33:56.942)
Christ.
Justin Fahrenbruch (34:01.463)
Big deal.
Justin Fahrenbruch (34:05.271)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (34:11.122)
we'd make so many other things out of it. And we'd get distracted by so many other things. When like you know, if I was on a, you know, they're like, if you were gonna be shipwrecked on an island, what would you take with you? Jesus, you know? I don't want anything else. There's nothing else. I mean, I just wanna, just, I don't even care. I don't need anything if I've got Jesus. And that's
Justin Fahrenbruch (34:31.406)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (34:41.971)
I believe that we are coming into a time, not just a season, but a time, an epoch in our journey on this planet as humans where Christ is going to be revealed by Christ.
not the church, not a doctrine, not a denomination, not like what you're talking about. I mean, it's kind of already happening with the Muslims. Like so many Muslims have had encounters with Jesus, you know, the man in the white robe showing up to them even though they're Muslim or you know.
you and I both know there's no us and them. There's just believers and pre-believers, you know. Jesus doesn't jump back on the cross every time somebody decides to acknowledge him, you know. He died once for all and it's up for us to find that, find that on our journey whether it whether it's in Taoism or whatever. Jesus can meet.
Justin Fahrenbruch (35:28.974)
Right, exactly. Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (35:50.646)
anybody anywhere in a parking lot. Like, I got saved in a church and went out to the parking lot threw my weed out the car, you know? So, I wasn't super dealing, you know? But, I mean, we've all got a story. But people, people who have never...
like my husband, like Scott. He was born and raised in a Christian home. Went to a pri... this is years ago, like 40 years ago we graduated, which is crazy to think about. Went to a Southern Baptist Bible school. So he got a lot of God there, a lot of religion, a lot of...
Bible, let's just say Bible, and then his parents were charismatic. So he had one at school and one at home and so he got all this religion and yet Jesus still needed to show up for him too, you know? And so it's it doesn't matter because like I was talking to somebody recently and she's like, I don't know my testimony because it's you know it's there's not this happen. I'm like
Justin Fahrenbruch (36:34.251)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (37:01.934)
Jesus died for you just like he died for the crack whore. I mean, come on. We don't I think it's a more beautiful testimony That somebody was raised in a good kingdom church Like Cinda like I am so jealous for Cinda She's like she's got kingdom parents
Justin Fahrenbruch (37:05.825)
That's right.
Justin Fahrenbruch (37:16.226)
Yes.
Melissa Lapin (37:24.17)
prayerfully because of the identity that she already has as what a 10 11 year old however old send is that she won't quote backslide and need Jesus this come to Jesus moment, she won't have to have a well moment, you know, that she will just always walk in kingdom to me that's the more beautiful testimony.
Justin Fahrenbruch (37:30.411)
Mm-hmm.
Justin Fahrenbruch (37:49.578)
Absolutely, you know that absolutely Melissa and people and that's the one thing that if you're listening to this A lot of people come up to me and say I wish I had your testimony. I said man
Melissa Lapin (37:58.31)
Like, no, you don't.
Justin Fahrenbruch (37:59.742)
No, you don't. You don't want to go through. You know how many people I've lost to drug addiction? All my friends that aren't here, the people that got shot on the streets. I mean, I was with a friend who died right next to me. I mean, a lot of my friends aren't here today because they died of drug. They didn't make it out. And so I'm like, listen, whatever testimony you have, you can reach people with whatever testimony it is because there's so many people in the world that need to hear about what you have. And I mean,
Melissa Lapin (38:05.246)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (38:25.45)
To be honest, people don't, some people don't relate with my story because they haven't been through drugs. I mean, the people that have, they can relate, but people that don't, they don't understand. And so I love the way that, you know, God uses us all uniquely in our own way and our own, and that's just part of identity. I'm owning what it is that God's done to you and through you and taking that and using it for his good. No matter what it is, you could have been born and raised in religion and coming out of religion. You might have had a great, listen, you could have had a great upbringing and a kingdom family. And there might be somebody else out there that needs to hear.
Melissa Lapin (38:31.375)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (38:41.308)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Lapin (38:49.63)
Mm-hmm.
Justin Fahrenbruch (38:55.344)
It's okay for you to be brought up in the kingdom. Hello, that's a good thing, praise God. Like you said, the best thing. So anyway.
Melissa Lapin (38:59.674)
Yep. Yeah. We get it. You know, and I think again, it, that's a lack of identity and people. Yeah. I don't know that it's just, we, we have screwed up the gospel. So, you know, it's just about being with Jesus. It doesn't matter.
Justin Fahrenbruch (39:18.25)
Yes, big time, man. Man.
Melissa Lapin (39:26.242)
went and it is like we say that like he shows up like Jesus never went anywhere it's us acknowledging Jesus and that's it's like he didn't go anywhere like when you know Adam and Eve left the garden God went right with him in the garden you know right out he didn't like slam the bushes shut when they left you know just say good luck on your own guys no he followed them
Justin Fahrenbruch (39:32.522)
Yeah, come on. That's a good word. He's been enjoying it.
Justin Fahrenbruch (39:39.648)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (39:44.994)
That's right.
Justin Fahrenbruch (39:50.402)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (39:55.422)
and he pursues us and there comes a time when we just think like you had your like you looked in the mirror and you saw Jesus.
you know, the woman at the well, she saw Jesus sitting there waiting on her and had the conversation and she was ballsy too. And I think that's a lot of what we lack is religion has kept us and so many people in so much fear that we're afraid to ask questions.
Justin Fahrenbruch (40:16.653)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (40:29.062)
But she didn't. Girlfriend was like, OK, so you want water, but you don't even have a bucket. So what's that all about? You know what I mean? Like she's right out of the gate. She got in his face about, you know, like, well, why are you talking to me? You're a Jew and I'm a and I'm a Samaritan. Why are you, you know, like question after question, challenge after challenge to go, OK, are you who you who I think you are? Because I.
Justin Fahrenbruch (40:29.069)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (40:36.546)
Right?
Melissa Lapin (40:55.114)
fully believe she knew because of the presence that was there. That she knew who she was talking to, but she wanted him to prove it so that she could fully believe it. You know, because I mean you think about it her life five, five husbands and she wasn't a prostitute. There's no proof of that. I fully disagree with that theology that she was a prostitute.
Justin Fahrenbruch (41:00.996)
Thank you.
Melissa Lapin (41:25.298)
We don't know why she was at the well in the middle of the day. Maybe she did laundry and needed more water. We don't know. But she knew in her heart and she was educated because how else did she know about the prophets and all of these things? And we're supposed to worship here and we're supposed to worship there. And so we live our lives with all of this information when it comes down to. Jesus, is this really you looking at me?
you know, and then we get to choose to believe what he says about us, you know, which, like you said, you can't really put words into it, but in that parking lot, you're just like, something just happened that I will never deny the rest of my life. And, you know, I think that happens a lot for us.
But we get distracted and we forget these things because of religion, because of someone in our community said, Oh, well, you can't believe that. Oh, that's heresy or oh, that's not in scripture. Well, I might not be able to find a scripture where Justin knelt in a parking lot. But you know what? The character of God is to meet me where I am. You know, get me to preaching, bro.
Justin Fahrenbruch (42:41.966)
That's it. Come on. That's it. Come on, man. Well, that's why I'm like people. The Bible says even if you want to go back and you can even read scripture and if you're watching this and you're religious, the Bible actually says in John, it says that everything that Jesus did the book couldn't even contain it. So you got that. So if it's not in scripture and if it's in the character of God, hello. I don't know. Anyway.
Melissa Lapin (42:59.363)
Uh huh.
Melissa Lapin (43:05.674)
Come on, yeah, yeah. Well, that was a good nugget. So what would you like, because we're coming to a close here, I forgot to tell you, we do about 40, 45 minutes, but what would be some encouragement that you would like to leave with the listeners? Or just a word, just something? What's God telling you to share right now?
Justin Fahrenbruch (43:17.226)
Yeah, no problem.
Justin Fahrenbruch (43:29.804)
Yeah.
Um, you know, I just, I just want to share that, you know, so I got pulled out and I'll share that I had a lot of hurt towards the church and like the denominations and all that. And then after I learned that I was an evangelist, I believe God put me back into the church, which is one of the most difficult. I do not recommend for anybody unless you're called to do it.
Melissa Lapin (43:51.538)
Ha ha
Justin Fahrenbruch (43:52.678)
It is very difficult because I got to love these people. I got to love these people that are all in there and I'm doing the best I can to help them. And so if you're in a denomination right now, let's say an assembly of God or a word of faith or, you know, spirit filled, charismatic.
you know, if that's where God's called you, that's great. But just don't allow yourself to get stuck in the parameters of what they say. That's what religion does. And I always encourage people cause that's why I get upset with the different, um, people that are, and I've been in churches where they're denominate, like assembly of gods and we're to face where they're like, Hey, you know, they don't stick themselves and they'll be open to going farther. And that's good. But you know, always just, there's always more. And I just wanted to encourage somebody who's watching this today, keep digging.
Melissa Lapin (44:13.55)
Yeah. That's good.
Melissa Lapin (44:32.805)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (44:36.208)
think that you've ever arrived. Don't think that you've ever got it all because there's so much more to learn and there's so much depth within who God is and the character and the person of God and there's so much more for you. And so wherever you're at right now just be encouraged that God's not done with you yet. That you know you might be struggling with something right now but just know that there's more for you to step into and that he loves you no matter what you did. And this is the last thing Melissa and I'm done and I'll be done. I am so... I'm sorry.
Melissa Lapin (44:38.672)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (44:52.593)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (45:01.914)
No, we can talk all day long, man. It's my podcast.
Justin Fahrenbruch (45:04.754)
I'm just, I'm just so, and I believe you can hear my heart on this. I'm so fed up with the us versus them mentality. I, I want to destroy that thing. And even if it's, you know, okay, like this whole Israel thing going on right now, and I, if anybody else texts me and tells me about this, just please don't, I'm not even reading them. I love both sides. Hello? God loves both sides. Like stop even the Muslims, even, even different religions, that doesn't separate me from loving them or treating them any differently. That's the same stuff.
Melissa Lapin (45:11.877)
Ugh, yes.
Melissa Lapin (45:24.659)
Mm-hmm.
Justin Fahrenbruch (45:34.688)
as we do in the church and we say this drug addict doesn't deserve Jesus because he's living like this. It's the same. This person doesn't deserve Jesus because he's Catholic. This person doesn't deserve Jesus because he's in China or whatever Buddhism. Dude, we all deserve that relationship with God. Stop treating people differently just because you think differently about them. That's not the way God's thinking and I'm doing everything I can to destroy that thing, man. I just anyway.
Melissa Lapin (45:39.66)
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Lapin (45:49.054)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (45:52.414)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (45:56.422)
Yeah, me too. And part of it is through this podcast because I'm just like, I don't, I don't care who you are. Bullshit is bullshit, you know? Let's just stop. Let's stop with all the hate. Uh, my daughter, um, who's recovering from church hurt slowly, but she'll
Justin Fahrenbruch (46:00.142)
Appreciate that.
Justin Fahrenbruch (46:08.237)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (46:15.082)
Yeah, it takes time man, it takes time.
Melissa Lapin (46:18.487)
I am praying for her art so bad. She was she was wounded very badly by a youth pastor, but um She sent me a meme about this guy and he Like churches judging other churches is called grace-ism
Justin Fahrenbruch (46:23.715)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (46:34.358)
Wow.
Melissa Lapin (46:35.57)
that we only have grace for, you know, it's gracism. And it was, and that's what we do. We have grace for this and that and not this and not that. And it's, yeah, it was hilarious and sad all at the same time, but that's the perfect, that's the perfect terminology because I'll give you grace for this, but I won't give you grace for that, you know? And that's just bogus. I'm like, sometimes I look at somebody and go,
Justin Fahrenbruch (46:38.946)
Wow, I like that.
Justin Fahrenbruch (46:44.832)
I like that.
Justin Fahrenbruch (46:58.126)
See.
Justin Fahrenbruch (47:05.462)
Yeah. Praise God, man.
Melissa Lapin (47:05.664)
Because who would be left on the planet but you and your judgmental Karen self? You know? And...
Justin Fahrenbruch (47:13.551)
Do you know how much hate mail I get from people that don't believe like I do? That I'm a heresy and I'm this and I'm that? And I'm not even out there like some of the other people, but they just don't believe the way I believe. And I'm like, look, man, I love you the same. Bless you. I love what Dubb says. Bless them and block them. I ain't got time for that, man. Like I, you know, I just, and I don't, and I don't, go ahead.
Melissa Lapin (47:21.494)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (47:26.318)
Yeah. Bust them and block them. Yep.
Yeah. Well, cause if, if... Go ahead. No, go ahead.
Justin Fahrenbruch (47:35.922)
No, no, I was going to say I don't, I, I purposely pray for them and try not to put up walls in my heart towards them people, because I understand where they're at. I was there at one point, you know? So I get it. And I'm like, Hey, just, I'm going to block you just so that way that you, you know, you can stop this. You're actually hurting yourself. You don't know it, but you're actually attacking God. Like you're, you're coming after me, but it ain't me you're coming after. It's him. And so I'm going to block you for your own good. And they don't, they don't look at it like that, but it is what it is.
Melissa Lapin (47:44.346)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (47:52.723)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (47:57.212)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, and we've, I've had to do that too. I'm like, okay, you, you're, you're not seeing the bigger picture here. You're not hearing the words that I'm saying because, and people can't. I mean, the religious spirit, I mean, it's a real thing.
Justin Fahrenbruch (48:18.454)
Yeah, it was a real thing. It's a real thing.
Melissa Lapin (48:18.81)
You know, it's a crazy thing. And like when you're screaming at me on Facebook in all caps, I'm like, yeah, I don't have time for that. Cause you obviously just are not in a mature spot. And I just, boop. Yeah, we're.
Justin Fahrenbruch (48:35.938)
their pre-kingdom or non-kingdom at all, you know.
Melissa Lapin (48:38.918)
Yeah, oh, they're real religious. And apparently, you know, it was a whole conversation on predestination. Like people are destined for hell. It's in scripture and I'm like, can I have scripture please? You know, and I was like, they're chosen for hell from the beginning of time. And I'm like, not in my Bible. What, then you haven't read your whole Bible. And sometimes I will admit I poke the bear and I antagonize.
Justin Fahrenbruch (48:42.626)
I'm sorry.
Melissa Lapin (49:09.012)
I'm not even gonna lie, you know, so but anyway. Well this was really good. I know you have places where people can donate and all of that. Can you share that how people can connect with you?
Justin Fahrenbruch (49:11.116)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (49:26.538)
Sure. Yeah. Um, so, you know, I started a nonprofit 501 C ministry You can follow me on Facebook Justin Farin Brooke. I'm on Instagram, but www.kingdomfire.us that's our website and you can see we're converting a bus into a motorhome and I mean we travel all over the place You know My heart is really for the addicts and the homeless and people like we talked about in the beginning My heart is for the forgotten men and women and that's where I really go to I go to the hood I go
to the homeless. I go to those places where I mean I don't think that many people are going and so I want to go in there. And so if you want to you know support us that's great you know we really appreciate it. Every tax it's tax deductible. But just pray for us. You know I would just encourage you just to pray for our family because we do this together and we go into every denomination. We go into many churches and it's very difficult because I'm doing the best I can to love God and love people and give them the revelation about the kingdom and it's not always well received. And so people don't
like me and my family. And it's really tough for my daughters to hear people, you know, call me these really nasty names, Christians. These are Christians now. Like sinners, sinners love me. You know, sinners just absolutely love me.
Melissa Lapin (50:34.622)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (50:39.102)
It's for some reason, it's the weirdest thing. The Christians absolutely hate me and you know, my daughters are going through this period right now where they gotta hear everybody attack their dad. And you know, it's tough. And so, you know, but I'm not gonna stop. I can't stop. I gotta keep standing on the truth. And so if you could just pray for us. But yeah, Kingdom Fire is our ministry and we do a lot. I'm always out there on social media, you know, and I just, you know, I'm connected still to SOK and all you guys, I follow y'all. I just, like I said, I got a lot going on, but you know, while I'm doing tent revivals and preaching all over the state of Michigan. And so yeah.
Melissa Lapin (50:41.822)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (50:50.259)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (51:08.976)
Appreciate that.
Melissa Lapin (51:09.918)
Yeah. Very cool. Yeah, we'll definitely promote it and then when it, when this is published, then we'll, I'll let you know and so you can put it out there for your peeps and your followers and all of that too. Because we have a lot of good episodes on here of people which is conversations, you know, just like you and I just had. So there's some, if I do say so myself, there's some pretty good content out here.
Justin Fahrenbruch (51:36.418)
That's awesome. I appreciate you.
Melissa Lapin (51:36.73)
So yeah, well, thank you, Justin, for being on here, taking your time out and do that. And I thank you listeners for being here as well. I hope you really were encouraged that you walked away with some encouragement. And if there's anything that we said that we talked about,
Um, you can reach out, don't be a Karen, but if you want to have a real conversation about, uh, anything that you heard that we talked about, Justin and I both are open. You can contact us both on our Facebook pages, our Instagrams, um, those kinds of things where you may or may not follow us, leave comments wherever you watch the show. We get those as well. Um, like us,
Melissa Lapin (52:27.948)
in the suggested for you in the podcast on all the platforms. And yeah, I think that's about it. So yeah, yep, you can.
Justin Fahrenbruch (52:38.666)
Hey man, one last thing, can I share one last thing?
Alright, well maybe you're watching this episode and you're stuck in religion right now, or maybe you're feeling like, man, there's got to be more. You know, you're watching this and you're hearing us talk and you're hearing about the kingdom and you're like, man, there's got to be more. Or maybe you're struggling with drug addiction. You know, maybe you're in that spot where I was, where I was in religion and I did, I believed in Jesus, but I was still in drug addiction. You know, I just encourage you today, just, you know, cry out to God. God hears you and He sees you. And He's just waiting for you to cry out to Him. Not to religion, not to your pastor.
Melissa Lapin (53:08.51)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (53:12.452)
not to your denomination, straight to Him. You cry out to Him, you say, God I need help and I can't do this on my own. I'm ready to give it up and live for you and I promise you, I promise you that He will show up and show out in your life because He's not a respecter of persons. What He did for me, He'll do for you. Get connected to somebody who understands the kingdom and just start getting into it and understanding who your identity, who God says you are, and that'll change everything for you because He loves you and He created you in His likeness and
Melissa Lapin (53:12.894)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (53:25.674)
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Lapin (53:29.993)
Yeah.
Melissa Lapin (53:39.74)
Yeah.
Justin Fahrenbruch (53:42.893)
or a priest. King, priest, prophet, and a queen. Hallelujah. Come on somebody with the Queens in his kingdom. So hey, God bless you guys. I appreciate you Melissa. Super appreciate it.
Melissa Lapin (53:47.434)
Come on. Yeah.
I appreciate that. Thank you so much. And with that, we are gonna sign off. Thanks.
Justin Fahrenbruch (53:59.63)
All right, God bless y'all, thanks.
Justin Fahrenbruch (54:08.866)
still recording we good?
Melissa Lapin (54:11.77)
Yeah, you're kidding.
